Timeline for Teaching logic and problem solving to children?
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Apr 30, 2015 at 5:18 | comment | added | Pharap | I know I'm late, but introduce them to Basic, Gamemaker or Scratch. The goal of making a game will provide motivation, the final game is the reward - no matter how basic. If I had been introduced to the technology to program games when I was younger I'd probably know 15 programming languages by now rather than my meagre 5. | |
Sep 25, 2013 at 5:13 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | @ylluminate One can only grow up to the extend of ones own will.That is the nature of consciousness,and that is the way it should be.You are an individual.If someone else could grow you up,you are no longer an individual,but you would be part of that someone else.Now do you want to grow up more?Then welcome all information.Do not think you are grown up,simply because you have reached a certain age or have children.You can always improve yourself and that is growing up.Now be honest,do you want to understand my point (and be able to judge the info given yourself),or do you prefer to ignore it? | |
Sep 25, 2013 at 5:04 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | @ylluminate"So ultimately my motivation always boils down to love".So your love is partially constructed from fear and regret?As those are still present within you,and partially motivate your action. That doesn't seem ultimate love to me. You are fooling yourself, not willing to see (and overcome) that hard to track down fear. It seems more easy to solve it externally (teaching your children logic),then it to solve it internally:growing your self up spiritually.The same pattern arises with the cause of a problem: Its easier to blame someone else,than to track down the problem within yourself. | |
Sep 25, 2013 at 5:00 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | @ylluminate "Well I think you're off base quite a ways here" That is because you do not (want to?) understand my point.How can you categorize information off base if you do not understand the meaning?And you clearly don't understand, or else you wouldn't say stuff like "there is no fear in our household" as that is very unlikely.Don't be stubborn and try to maintain an open mind."simply a lack personal context of the situation" has nothing to do with it.Yes growing up (spritiualy) is personal yes.But the way to do it,no,thats a general way,for all of us: partially overcoming fears. | |
Sep 25, 2013 at 4:54 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | @ylluminate"there is no fear in our household",so you are all enlightened spiritual beings then,why ask questions here?And how come you can speak for others?You can't.You may think of fear as "I'm afraid of the neighbor and I can tell you why if you ask me" kind of fear,but that is not the fear I talk about.I am talking about the profound fear,that is hiding behind a seemingly reality created by illusion.Now that fear isn't obvious and takes tremendous effort to track down,and even more effort to overcome.Saying your family members do not experience fear,is delusional on itself. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 16:30 | history | edited | user420 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
If you're going to remove the request for a recommendation, please don't replace it with a complaint about not being able to request a recommendation; it defeats the point of your edit
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Sep 5, 2013 at 16:30 | vote | accept | ylluminate | ||
Sep 5, 2013 at 16:22 | history | edited | ylluminate | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
removed request for specifics as per mod's request
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Sep 5, 2013 at 16:19 | comment | added | user420 | The reasons why these types of questions are generally viewed as a poor fit for the SE platform are pretty well outlined in that blog entry by one of the founders. However, please note that we've opened the subject up to the community, and did not see any consensus that the community feels the rules should be changed for parenting.se. Feel free to cast your vote(s) on that discussion, as the issue is still open. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 16:16 | comment | added | ylluminate | @Beofett unfortunately this is a very big negative aspect of SO and apparently all SE exchanges. I'm really disappointed to hear that as we need tangible actionable recommendations that go beyond generalities. How can you get specifics unless you ask for specifics? Otherwise the usefulness is cast into the wind here… I have tried to express this same concern to others, but it seems to be ignored, downplayed or simply laughed at. What is one to do -- seriously, should I look into making a new SE that is more flexible and realistic for peoples' needs? | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 12:10 | comment | added | user420 | Regarding your most recent edit: unfortunately, questions focused on receiving specific product recommendations are off-topic. Please consider editing that part back out, as asking for general strategies is much more appropriate than requesting tangible resources. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 8:55 | comment | added | ylluminate | @RoryAlsop They all work amazingly well with pictures. :) I have also taught well over 1,000 students in my career and pictures (diagrams, renderings, chicken scratch on napkins, etc.) have never failed me or my professors many years ago. I have a background in education and computer science as well as parents who were both elementary and college professors. Pictures have always been key for all of my experiences, especially with abstract concepts. I'm sorry our experiences diverge, but hey, it is what it is. ;) | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 8:28 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | I think Mike is completely correct here - I have taught many hundreds of individuals over the years, at all ages from toddlers to 40+ and one definite point: everyone is different, with their own motivators. My own kids would not respond well to anything like 'draw a picture of the problem' - it is entirely alien to the way they work. Work with your children to find out what they respond best to, then use that technique. You will find it helps a lot. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 | history | edited | ylluminate | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
clarification
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Sep 5, 2013 at 5:18 | comment | added | ylluminate | Well I think you're off base quite a ways here & reading a tremendous amount of "stuff" into your assumptions / assertions. I guess it's simply a lack personal context of the situation & my words may be lacking to explain it all to you, but c'est la vie. My true motivation is to see them reach maximum potential out of a deep and eternal love for my children, wanting them to maximize this mortality so that they can enjoy the fruits of a deeper and richer world to come. So ultimately my motivation always boils down to love, even though other things promote and prompt realization & recognition. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 3:50 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | @ylluminate Your motivation, partially constructed of regret and fear, as you say yourself, is inferior to a more constructive motivation that would not involve regret and fear. Its not about what you do, its the motivation that matters. Its the motivation that defines the 'quality' of the action. You may have to accept a bit more that each being has its own path of progress, tasting a pudding through proxy seams impossible to me. None the less I wish you and your children the best, as that's the motivation behind my answer and comments. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 0:31 | comment | added | ylluminate | @MikedeKlerk Actually it is my own fear of not doing enough. One thing for which I am exceptionally grateful is that there is no fear in our household. I have been able to maintain wonderful relationships with all of my four children without evoking fear and regret. On the other hand, I leverage my own examples of regret to them so as to illustrate that it is better to learn these things from others' experiences vs "hitting the wall" themselves or going through the pain of experience. Sure, many of us learn through experience, BUT we can often learn by proxy. | |
Sep 5, 2013 at 0:29 | comment | added | ylluminate | @RoryAlsop: I disagree. We are all indeed visual creatures. There's no way around it. We base all life and social interaction on this. That is what language has been developed for and stems from; an abbreviated and concise form for describing the world (visual / contextual) around us. | |
Sep 4, 2013 at 18:16 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackParenting/status/375321387868884992 | ||
Sep 4, 2013 at 17:03 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | I would remove the 'we are visual creatures' bit - it often isn't true... | |
Sep 4, 2013 at 13:27 | answer | added | user420 | timeline score: 6 | |
Sep 4, 2013 at 12:46 | comment | added | Mike de Klerk | My answer summarized: I conclude, based on what you write that you act out of regret which raises a fear. Your fear is that your children will miss out on something if you do not stimulate their problem solving. Regret and fear aren't proper motivators. | |
Sep 4, 2013 at 9:00 | answer | added | Mike de Klerk | timeline score: -3 | |
Sep 4, 2013 at 0:06 | history | asked | ylluminate | CC BY-SA 3.0 |