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Jan 8, 2021 at 14:48 comment added user40261 When naked, some people will look at you, but that might be everything which happens. Example: Milo Moiré at Basel Art 2014, "The Script System": youtube.com/watch?v=fp3kRUoPwhY
Jun 23, 2017 at 14:14 comment added sleske @DmitryGrigoryev: Yes, that's how I understood it :-). I still though there was a serious question behind the joke, thus the answer.
Jun 23, 2017 at 14:04 comment added Dmitry Grigoryev @sleske This was an attempt at a joke, I wasn't disagreeing or expecting a serious answer.
Jun 23, 2017 at 13:57 comment added sleske @DmitryGrigoryev: Yes, if you are nude in a context where it is illegal, then that may be appropriate. Even an arrest can be performed respectfully - though I was thinking of situations where it is not strictly illegal...
Jun 23, 2017 at 13:56 comment added Dmitry Grigoryev @Layna That's not how I read this. Sure, ogling is not a good thing, but it's not something the girl or her father can easily prevent. The problem can (to an extent) be alleviated by the wardrobe, why not try that?
Jun 23, 2017 at 13:32 comment added Dmitry Grigoryev @sleske "Even if someone is naked, others can behave respectfully towards them" - like arresting them for public nudity? ;)
Jun 23, 2017 at 12:56 comment added phoog "Always been a thing": if you consider 20 years to be "always."
Jun 23, 2017 at 8:13 comment added user1450877 @sleske the difference is entirely subjective.
Jun 23, 2017 at 7:11 comment added sleske @user1450877: The question is not about "looking at someone", it's about "ogling", which is different (at least the way I understand the words). And at least in my experience, ogling is (thankfully) less common than being looked at.
Jun 23, 2017 at 7:10 comment added sleske @Layna: I'd say there is more than a ring of victim-shaming -there is zero excuse for ogling. Even if someone is naked, others can behave respectfully towards them.
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Jun 22, 2017 at 13:41 comment added user1450877 talk of boundaries isn't of any use, in the real world you cannot set boundaries to stop people looking at you. Pretending you can educate half the population to act in some vaguely defined, highly situational 'respectful' way isn't a practical solution either. If the girl is uncomfortable about people looking at her then she either needs to get used to it or needs to take steps to mitigate the attention she gets.
Jun 22, 2017 at 13:19 comment added Layna Sadly, this has an (admittedly very faint) ring of victim-shaming: they ogle you because of what YOU do, not because they don't know how to behave! In this case, adjusting the wardrobe MAY be fitting (depending on the wardrobe in question, which sound perfectly ok to me, and the teenage behaviour it causes). But the risk of creating a bad mindset should be kept in mind.
Jun 22, 2017 at 13:17 comment added McCann Boys ogle girls in the winter, as well as the summer. Boys ogle when girls are dressed up nicely, as well as when they're wearing frumpy (or modest) clothes. It's best to just teach girls how to enforce their boundaries and teach boys how to be respectful (actually teaching both genders both skills is best).
Jun 22, 2017 at 11:34 comment added user1450877 Always been a thing
Jun 22, 2017 at 11:09 comment added learner101 IANAL is a thing now?!
Jun 22, 2017 at 8:26 history answered user1450877 CC BY-SA 3.0