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| Mar 25, 2018 at 3:52 | comment | added | Ben I. | @Paul, you missed the point. A consequence naturally follows a behavior. Consequences can be good or bad. "You cheated at the card game, so I don't really want to play the next round with you" is a clear and obvious consequence. "You cheated at the card game, so now you can't go to your friend's party after lunch" is simply unrelated to the original action. It's also worth noting that consequences aren't only negative; positive consequences are also important. "You worked so hard on this picture, I will hang it on the fridge. Great job!" | |
| Dec 9, 2014 at 15:12 | comment | added | Joe | @domen: Actually, that's sort-of-intentional here. What is the consequence of doing homework poorly? Poor grades. You can of course have a reward system, a punishment system, or preferably logical consequences tied to that result - but that's entirely separate from the consequences discussed here, which arise from the expectation that homework must be finished before watching TV. | |
| Dec 9, 2014 at 15:10 | comment | added | Joe | @RedSonja: Punishments and consequences are different things; a punishment is not a consequence. A punishment is something that is unrelated to the behavior, while a consequence is caused by the behavior. In this case the consequence - say, not watching TV - is because the desired behavior is "do your homework prior to watching TV", and the consequence of not finishing homework in time to watch TV is not having time to watch TV. If the behavior is "do your homework", the child doesn't do it, and then you say "You can't watch TV tomorrow", that's a punishment. | |
| Dec 9, 2014 at 15:08 | comment | added | Joe | @Paul: First off, wording is important. You need to be consistent and logical, and the child needs to be able to clearly see the tie between the behavior and the consequence. Second, the big difference is that a punishment is not directly related to the behavior - it's a generic negative applied to it. A consequence directly arises from the behavior. I may not have picked great examples, but search around; there's a lot of literature on the difference. | |
| Dec 9, 2014 at 12:57 | comment | added | domen | I see a potential issue with "consequences" wording here. They might promote bad work, as the goal is to finish homework, but it doesn't say anything about doing a good job. But that might be another issue. | |
| Dec 9, 2014 at 8:18 | comment | added | RedSonja | Well a punishment is a consequence of something. And a consequence is a punishment if it's unpleasant. But a consequence can be good - behaved well at the doctor's, got an ice. | |
| Dec 8, 2014 at 23:06 | comment | added | Paul | If I'm interpreting your answer correctly, the only difference between "consequence" and "punishment" is what you say before you execute it | |
| Dec 8, 2014 at 15:51 | history | answered | Joe | CC BY-SA 3.0 |