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I've got someone in my network with parent clients where the father is having a hard time visualizing alternatives to his own toxic childhood experience. Can anyone think of some media examples (TV/movies/etc) that can help this man visualize what a kind, connected, engaged father might look like?

  • I don't think it should be closed but I don't think it belongs here. Maybe our meta? – SomeShinyMonica Mar 26 '18 at 14:25
  • Q&A is Hard, Let’s Go Shopping! (That said, obligatory Yotsuba.) – user7953 Mar 26 '18 at 15:16
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not really a parenting question – Batavia Mar 26 '18 at 17:19
  • Agreed that this is not about parenting, per say, although it is tangentially related. Perhaps more appropriate for movies.stackexchange.com? – sharur Mar 27 '18 at 15:41
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Good and recent examples where the father is present throughout? Good luck!

Having said that:

Bonanza comes to mind - though its been a really long time since I saw any of it and his kids are mostly adults. Growing pains, Cosby, Family ties, Full House and Brady bunch dads/uncles had it together most episodes (most of these dads are of course, not perfect, but making a really good effort and have shining moments).

A Little Princess (hallmark movie version shows the father relating very nicely at the beginning), Swiss Family Robinson, Grandpa Joe in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,

The Pursuit of Happyness by Chris Gardner (movie version) really highlights a father that is struggling through it and doing his very best to figure it out. The book is good too, but focuses a lot less on it.

I didn't watch 8 rules for dating my teenage daughter much but the 3 or 4 episodes I did see while John Ritter was still alive, seemed pretty heart felt and like they demonstrated a pretty tuned in dad.

Mathew Cuthbert as a surrogate father to Anne in the whole series about Anne of Green Gables.

My husband just finished reading the Clementine Series with Alice and said that the father figure in those books was someone he'd like to model his own parenting style after more.

Little House on the Prairie "is based on decades-old memories of Laura Ingalls Wilder's childhood in the Midwest region of the United States during the late 19th century" (Wikipedia). This series shows a father with a very caring attitude.

So Little house was added and I think that was what I needed to see to round out the whole thing.

On another note, I have an adopted brother that was pretty badly abused until he came to us at 16. I am also married to a man that was emotionally and verbally abused by his father even at the beginning of our marriage. For both of them just the fact that they wanted to be different (and having my Dad to speak with and have as a role model) made enough of a difference. My brother wound up with full custody of all three of his girls when the marriage his marriage fell apart (I really don't know the details nor do they belong on this forum). While my husband still makes mistakes - so do I, and our girl is well loved, respected and cared for.

A change is hard, but can be made with the desire and the help so I'm sure this person is already well down the path just recognizing that he needs to do things differently. He has also sought help and while role models from the media can provide examples, I'm sure with the help and support you are offering, his desire and hard work he will find success.

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    I like this list so much that I added one. Hope you don't mind :) – Torben Gundtofte-Bruun Nov 30 '12 at 8:25
  • Little House! Absolutely one of the best! Can't believe I didn't think of it - watched every day for much of my childhood. – balanced mama Nov 30 '12 at 15:38
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    Heh. +1 for "good luck with that". At the risk of starting a political brou-ha-ha, modern entertainment deliberately shows fathers in the worst possible light - either as "missing and not necessary or missed", or "not missing but better off if were missing", or "bumbling Al Bundy morons". With precious few (I'd be hard pressed to name one) examples of what OP seeks. – user3143 Dec 3 '12 at 3:21
  • I'd add Porter Ricks from Flipper (1964), Andy Taylor from the Andy Griffith show. – pojo-guy Mar 26 '18 at 18:45
  • Jonathan Kent from Smallville? He was Superman's role-model... – Ask About Monica Mar 27 '18 at 23:43
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As a father dealing with the same issue I can tell you that there's no TV or movie that's really going to help with that situation. I also sympathize with his situation. Before my first child was born I was concerned that the lack of good role models was going to hurt my ability to be a good parent, and I looked all around in books, TV, movies, etc for inspiration. On the TV and movie front I found every show with good parents in it was useless because the situations shown in them weren't real. A TV show that had half an hour of a child throwing a tantrum wouldn't get many viewers. Plus, seeing someone on TV be patient in a situation doesn't help oneself be patient in a similar situation, being patient is a skill that must be developed, it's not something you can switch on!

I ended up building a picture of the type of father I wanted to be by taking the negatives I experienced and flipping them. Where I got yelled at I would be calm and measured, where I was treated unkindly I would be kind. I visualized how I wanted to be and decided to work to that.

You know what actually happened? I found that it was the fact that I wanted to be a loving, caring parent went most of the way to helping me to be that father, rather than visualizing or looking at media. The rest is just tactics and learning from the many mistakes you make.

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    I had to login again just to tell you that when I shared your response with the Positive Discipline community (where the original question came from) Jane Nelsen herself, the creator/author of Positive Discipline, wrote me to ensure I told you what an inspiration this response is. Thank you! – Christine Gordon Nov 30 '12 at 15:09
  • @ChristineGordon, thanks for that, I appreciate the compliment! – GdD Nov 30 '12 at 15:15
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This only concerns a few episodes of a who Series, but:
Star Trek - Deep Space Nine comes to mind!
I would consider both Miles O'Brien and Benjamin Sisko good fathers.
A special mention for me in this context would be "Explorers", Episode 3x22 (A Father trying to connect with his teenage son by having an adventure in a self-build ship!). But family-issues come up throughout the series, and Jake Sisko growing up and his relationship with his father pop up time an again.
We don't get to see that much of O'Brien regarding family-issues, but when they come up, I dare say he can be considered a role-model, yes.

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One really good example of a loving, kind father is Bob from Bob's Burgers. Yes, it is a cartoon, but that man is just a really good example of a man just trying to be good to his family. There's one episode where his daughter, Tina, approaches him because she wants to remove her leg hair, and her mum is busy, so he goes and gets his legs waxed with her. And they bring her younger brother, Gene, because he wants to go and get his legs waxed too. They just accept each other for who they are and what they want to do, and own up to their mistakes.

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Modern Family is as close as it gets to a my own clan (of family and close friends) as I've ever seen on TV. They give each other crap, they say and do things that irritate, anger, entertain, etc, but underneath it all is the family bond. All the crap that happens between the people is really on a completely different level than the family unit.

I almost made this just a comment to the OP but i wanted to add something: in addition to media, whether entertaining or educational, it's not going to hurt for him to talk to someone. But it's not about sitting down with a counselor and talking about his childhood, from what you say, working on that is not the goal here. Talking with a professional about the specifics of setting aside the memories of his childhood for the benefit of his own children will be a challenge to stay focused. I'm no pro, but I'll bet that group interactions on the subj would be great.

  • +1 for counseling. Not everybody needs it, but it's good advice for those who do (but they must want it). – Torben Gundtofte-Bruun Nov 30 '12 at 15:26
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The most recent example I can think of is "Full House".

Sadly, for ideological reasons, modern entertainment industry in USA deliberately shows fathers in the worst possible light - either as "missing and not necessary or missed", or "not missing but better off if were missing", or "bumbling Al Bundy morons". Note that @balancedmama's answer almost exclusively lists OLD shows.

But I will second @GdD's assertion that a movie/TV role model won't be of much help anyway. The trouble usually is NOT in not knowing how you should behave, but in being able to follow the rules of how you think you want to behave in an actual parenting situation, where nerves are thin, patience is thinner, and rational thought is hard to come by.

The best advice I can give is something which seems rather silly but seems to work often - ask around on forums what the likely problematic scenarios will be that will arise, and play-act and rehearse your reactions to them, a LOT, so they are natural and reflexive.

(think of it as parenting katas, if you are into martial arts).

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The fathers in the show Parenthood are often quite good, and the show excels at dealing with realistic scenarios. My wife and I used to pause as we watched episodes, and ask ourselves what we would do if we found ourselves in (insert situation here). We often did this several times in an episode, and it helped us to develop a more unified set of parenting ideals that we still share.

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